Editor’s note: Local news editor Steve Miller interviewed Doris Kearns Goodwin. See his story in today’s paper. (Goodwin speaks here Wednesday evening.) Steve told me he could have written two stories about the interview. I said, welcome to Mount Blogmore! BH
By Steve Miller
Doris Kearns Goodwin, the Pulitzer-Prize winning author and historian, said she was worried.
Goodwin has written about Franklin and Eleanor Roosevelt, the Kennedys, Lyndon Johnson and Abraham Lincoln. But she wasn’t worried about the state of the country. Well, maybe she was, but she didn’t say. She did say she was worried about Red Sox first baseman David Ortiz. Goodwin, a die-hard Red Sox fan, said the big slugger wasn’t hitting. “It’s ridiculous to worry, of course,†she said. But, hey, she’s a Sox fan. (She also assured me that Josh Beckett would be the Sox best pitcher this year. So far, she’s right.)
Maybe it was an odd way to start an interview with a noted historian, but we got into it naturally. She said the weather was lousy and I asked her what it would be like for the Sox home opener. I’m a relative latecomer to Red Sox Nation, having started following them in 1976, when Yaz, Jim Rice, Carlton Fisk, Dewey Evans and big George “Boomer†Scott whacked the ball around Fenway Park. Goodwin grew up a Brooklyn Dodgers fan. She wrote about that in Wait Till Next Year.
We talked about her historical biographies, too — particularly her compelling 2005 book Team of Rivals: The Political Genius of Abraham Lincoln. I was fascinated by the fact that she was two years into her research before she decided to focus her book on Lincoln’s relationships with his fractious Cabinet. Two years. For most newspaper reporters, a big long-term project lasts two weeks. Most of the research we do for stories is done in five or six phone calls in an afternoon, followed by a couple of hours of furious writing.
I failed to pin her down on what she thought of the current president, but she said the great presidents like Lincoln and FDR had the chance to be great when they encountered great challenges. As she reported in her book, the young Lincoln was worried that there wouldn’t be any great challenges for his generation. He needn’t have worried, of course.
Bush’s opportunity came with Sept. 11, 2001. But she would say only that Bush’s legacy will be tied to how the war in Iraq. “The main response to the war on terror became the war in Iraq,†she said. “Everything will turn on how that turns out.â€
Goodwin did say that she is extremely proud of her son Joe, who recently got out of the Army after serving a year in Iraq as a combat platoon leader, winning a Bronze Star for valor. He graduated from college in June 2001 with a degree in history and literature and “with no thought about the Army,†she said. He joined up after Sept. 11. She was also proud that Joe had written an op-ed piece in the Boston Globe, arguing that America is not really at war — only the soldiers and their families are at war.
Goodwin is working on a book about Theodore Roosevelt’s presidency. She was noncommittal about whether she would come out to the Dakotas to research TR’s life out here in the 1880s. But she didn’t rule it out.
By the way, Goodwin praised one of the questions I posed to her in our interview. I wish I had thought of it, but the question came from the Blogmorite known as TimH. A god of Blogmore, Bill Harlan, upon learning I would interview Goodwin, invited Blogmorites to submit questions. TimH asked whether history would be kinder to Bill Clinton, who made relatively benign foreign policy decisions and had at least some success on the domestic side but who led a scandal plagued personal life, or to George W. Bush, who has been a comparative paragon of virtue in his personal life but who has struggled on the policy front, especially foreign policy.( See the story for her answer.)
Goodwin hung in there with me for about 45 minutes with me. She granted one of those interviews that is energizing to the reporter, partly because she offered “good stuff,†and partly because her intelligence is so wide-ranging and engaging.
And it didn’t hurt that she could talk with authority about the Red Sox. Beckett won his third game Monday and Big Popi hit his fourth home run. Life is good. But Goodwin, like all true Sox fans, will still worry.