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		<title>Comment on Is a tree stand in an apple tree illegal baiting? by Bill Dithmer</title>
		<link>http://blogs.rapidcityjournal.com/outdoors/?p=2144&#038;cpage=1#comment-12275</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Dithmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 03:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I'm back on here for a pitiful reason. In the earlier post I now have to admit that I did in fact tell a nontruth,or you might say it was a fabrication of writing that I told a falsehood. I'm going to call it like it was. a bald faced lie. In that post I stated that I had never baited an animal in my life. Imagine my disgust with myself when I  remembered what the truth actually was. 
I have in fact baited hundreds of mouse traps in my life. Some with peanut butter, some with cheese and the most productive of all mouse baits rancid bacon. Thank you lord for good poison. I also have to admit that I have baited live traps meant for coon with sardines, not recommended because house cats and skunks like it more then coon do. Do any of you know how to get a skunk out of a livetrap without getting sprayed? I do now. Lets just say that the most effective bait is grape jelly when it comes to return on your investment of time  and labor, not to mention my fear of skunks. Also back in the 80s my friends  and I baited big live traps to catch bobcats to use in training dogs. We would catch a cat, put it to sleep, put a tracking collar on it and turn it loose. Does this sound like our GF&amp;P or what? We used bunnies, pheasants, and what turned out to be the best bait of all, grouse, in our shady activities. 
I am confessing here because I knew it was only a matter of time before skeptic put two and two together and wrote about it. Then I would have to deal with the truthinator rdennis. Country justice is a terrible thing to witness!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I&#8217;m back on here for a pitiful reason. In the earlier post I now have to admit that I did in fact tell a nontruth,or you might say it was a fabrication of writing that I told a falsehood. I&#8217;m going to call it like it was. a bald faced lie. In that post I stated that I had never baited an animal in my life. Imagine my disgust with myself when I  remembered what the truth actually was.<br />
I have in fact baited hundreds of mouse traps in my life. Some with peanut butter, some with cheese and the most productive of all mouse baits rancid bacon. Thank you lord for good poison. I also have to admit that I have baited live traps meant for coon with sardines, not recommended because house cats and skunks like it more then coon do. Do any of you know how to get a skunk out of a livetrap without getting sprayed? I do now. Lets just say that the most effective bait is grape jelly when it comes to return on your investment of time  and labor, not to mention my fear of skunks. Also back in the 80s my friends  and I baited big live traps to catch bobcats to use in training dogs. We would catch a cat, put it to sleep, put a tracking collar on it and turn it loose. Does this sound like our GF&amp;P or what? We used bunnies, pheasants, and what turned out to be the best bait of all, grouse, in our shady activities.<br />
I am confessing here because I knew it was only a matter of time before skeptic put two and two together and wrote about it. Then I would have to deal with the truthinator rdennis. Country justice is a terrible thing to witness!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Finally, it&#8217;s a done dog deal: It&#8217;ll be a springer by Bill Dithmer</title>
		<link>http://blogs.rapidcityjournal.com/outdoors/?p=2169&#038;cpage=1#comment-12274</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Dithmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 03:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being without a dog is the same thing as being dead, you just smell better. Its going to be a fun year at the Wosters.

&lt;em&gt;Bill: I'm feelin' more alive already. K.W.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being without a dog is the same thing as being dead, you just smell better. Its going to be a fun year at the Wosters.</p>
<p><em>Bill: I&#8217;m feelin&#8217; more alive already. K.W.</em></p>
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		<title>Comment on Is a tree stand in an apple tree illegal baiting? by rdennis</title>
		<link>http://blogs.rapidcityjournal.com/outdoors/?p=2144&#038;cpage=1#comment-12273</link>
		<dc:creator>rdennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin, could we start a new thread as per Skeptics assumptions?

As to allowing him to hunt here, only if he changes his attitude. I have no problem with someone wanting to hunt and I understand the frustrations when you see people charging what you consider high prices for a place to hunt and having a better than fair chance  of getting a nice trophy, but these people should also reflect that there is no free lunch. 

As to the idea that these wild animals belong to the state, oh that they did, because I would sue the states pants off when ever I or anyone in my family hit one of the states animals on the hiway.

Skeptic, when you go buy some land and sweat blood and shed tears to keep it and remain on it by any means that are with in reason, then come tell me bout letting every Tom, Dick or Harry onto it to shoot all the big bucks you saved for them, for free. I notice those who bemoan the pay hunting tht has come about in the last few years the worse are people who never ever whine about what they pay for an automobile to get to the hunting area or the cost of the license fee, or the cost of the weapon or ammo for it or much of anything else except for the greedy ol' land owner. Most landowners don't get nearly as much in funds from the largess of the government as those who live in towns and cities across this land.

So please, if we must, let us start a new thread about all this and go from there. And pass on my phone number to skeptic as I get real tired of typing and it is much more fun to talk ear to ear or face to face! Heck here it is to any or all who care to discuss this or any matter. Early morning, noon or early evening is best. If you call and wake my wife, you will have to deal with her! 605 985 5419.

&lt;em&gt;rd: I'm not sure anything skeptic said merits its own thread. I think he represents a very small, very unhappy, very uneducated constituency in the way he views farmers and ranchers. But I'm willing to consider it. How would you frame it? K.W.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin, could we start a new thread as per Skeptics assumptions?</p>
<p>As to allowing him to hunt here, only if he changes his attitude. I have no problem with someone wanting to hunt and I understand the frustrations when you see people charging what you consider high prices for a place to hunt and having a better than fair chance  of getting a nice trophy, but these people should also reflect that there is no free lunch. </p>
<p>As to the idea that these wild animals belong to the state, oh that they did, because I would sue the states pants off when ever I or anyone in my family hit one of the states animals on the hiway.</p>
<p>Skeptic, when you go buy some land and sweat blood and shed tears to keep it and remain on it by any means that are with in reason, then come tell me bout letting every Tom, Dick or Harry onto it to shoot all the big bucks you saved for them, for free. I notice those who bemoan the pay hunting tht has come about in the last few years the worse are people who never ever whine about what they pay for an automobile to get to the hunting area or the cost of the license fee, or the cost of the weapon or ammo for it or much of anything else except for the greedy ol&#8217; land owner. Most landowners don&#8217;t get nearly as much in funds from the largess of the government as those who live in towns and cities across this land.</p>
<p>So please, if we must, let us start a new thread about all this and go from there. And pass on my phone number to skeptic as I get real tired of typing and it is much more fun to talk ear to ear or face to face! Heck here it is to any or all who care to discuss this or any matter. Early morning, noon or early evening is best. If you call and wake my wife, you will have to deal with her! 605 985 5419.</p>
<p><em>rd: I&#8217;m not sure anything skeptic said merits its own thread. I think he represents a very small, very unhappy, very uneducated constituency in the way he views farmers and ranchers. But I&#8217;m willing to consider it. How would you frame it? K.W.</em></p>
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		<title>Comment on Is a tree stand in an apple tree illegal baiting? by Bear Paw</title>
		<link>http://blogs.rapidcityjournal.com/outdoors/?p=2144&#038;cpage=1#comment-12272</link>
		<dc:creator>Bear Paw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks guys!  RD:  I have plenty of asian connections.  Phillippine adobo style and Korean
bulgogi style are okay but not really what I want.  From my knowledge, very few regions in Thailand, China, or Japan eat dog.  I was looking for other options.  I don't know that I will need a recipe -- but my friends are interested.

Back in the old days, I shared a meal on the reservation that was a delicious stew with dog meat, tasty vegetables &amp; homemade dumplings.  (No derogatory comments about native americans please.  They were good folks sharing a meal with a friend -- and I was truly honored.)

Bill:  I understand your feelings -- I'm a dog lover, too!  Thanks for the recipe.  It sounds promising but what purpose does the liver spread/pate serve?  Also, how much is 3kg of meat? I assume you mean red bell pepper in Step #3.  (I'm not being picky -- I'm paying attention.)  I would probably add a bit of chili powder, cumin, crushed red pepper, jalapenos, habaneros, Thai "boonie" peppers, and some dark beer to give it a kick!  Aaah!

Please elaborate about rabies being passed through wolf meat.  I'd never heard that.  My friends &amp; I need to find out more before I share potential recipes.  

Over the years, I got to visit lots of foreign lands and experienced some pretty exotic fare including:  kundamundi, monkey, horse shish-ka-bob, rice bugs, balut, "bif-ona-stik",  raw, fermented, or pickled ___________, and the really funky mystery meat occasionally dumped into military box lunches.  (My buddy shared the mystery meat with his patrol dog
and it became so ill that it had to quickly be medivaced from Panama back to the U.S.)

That was a very interesting experience you described at the wake.

Years ago, I was invited to the 200 year birthday celebration of the village of Umatac on the south end of the island of Guam.  It was a great fiesta!  My wife &amp; I picked up trays and sampled lots of exotic &amp; delicious food.  I lifted a bowl close to my face as I ladled out a bit of corn chowder.  In the ladle was the head of a toothy "Fanihi" -- a fruitbat looking at me.  I sputtered &amp; stammered as I backed away from my "treasure".  A native of the village told me that the head was reserved for the elderly chief. With a bit of prodding, I agreed to give up my prize &amp; comply with their tradition.  My wife was by my side and now regularly tells friends of my "manly" reaction to facing this delicacy face to face!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks guys!  RD:  I have plenty of asian connections.  Phillippine adobo style and Korean<br />
bulgogi style are okay but not really what I want.  From my knowledge, very few regions in Thailand, China, or Japan eat dog.  I was looking for other options.  I don&#8217;t know that I will need a recipe &#8212; but my friends are interested.</p>
<p>Back in the old days, I shared a meal on the reservation that was a delicious stew with dog meat, tasty vegetables &amp; homemade dumplings.  (No derogatory comments about native americans please.  They were good folks sharing a meal with a friend &#8212; and I was truly honored.)</p>
<p>Bill:  I understand your feelings &#8212; I&#8217;m a dog lover, too!  Thanks for the recipe.  It sounds promising but what purpose does the liver spread/pate serve?  Also, how much is 3kg of meat? I assume you mean red bell pepper in Step #3.  (I&#8217;m not being picky &#8212; I&#8217;m paying attention.)  I would probably add a bit of chili powder, cumin, crushed red pepper, jalapenos, habaneros, Thai &#8220;boonie&#8221; peppers, and some dark beer to give it a kick!  Aaah!</p>
<p>Please elaborate about rabies being passed through wolf meat.  I&#8217;d never heard that.  My friends &amp; I need to find out more before I share potential recipes.  </p>
<p>Over the years, I got to visit lots of foreign lands and experienced some pretty exotic fare including:  kundamundi, monkey, horse shish-ka-bob, rice bugs, balut, &#8220;bif-ona-stik&#8221;,  raw, fermented, or pickled ___________, and the really funky mystery meat occasionally dumped into military box lunches.  (My buddy shared the mystery meat with his patrol dog<br />
and it became so ill that it had to quickly be medivaced from Panama back to the U.S.)</p>
<p>That was a very interesting experience you described at the wake.</p>
<p>Years ago, I was invited to the 200 year birthday celebration of the village of Umatac on the south end of the island of Guam.  It was a great fiesta!  My wife &amp; I picked up trays and sampled lots of exotic &amp; delicious food.  I lifted a bowl close to my face as I ladled out a bit of corn chowder.  In the ladle was the head of a toothy &#8220;Fanihi&#8221; &#8212; a fruitbat looking at me.  I sputtered &amp; stammered as I backed away from my &#8220;treasure&#8221;.  A native of the village told me that the head was reserved for the elderly chief. With a bit of prodding, I agreed to give up my prize &amp; comply with their tradition.  My wife was by my side and now regularly tells friends of my &#8220;manly&#8221; reaction to facing this delicacy face to face!</p>
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		<title>Comment on A day of celebration for a woman who makes a difference by Jeff O</title>
		<link>http://blogs.rapidcityjournal.com/outdoors/?p=2157&#038;cpage=1#comment-12271</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I take a few days off hunting and I miss the big day for Verma.   35 years...wow.  She truly is the best employee the department has ever seen.  I guarentee she is the most underpaid and deserves 10 times her salary.  She runs the show and does a great job.
She also makes a great carrot cake! 

I bet you will not be at the journal for 35 years, KW.

&lt;em&gt;Jeff: I hope you're right. But given the state of my retirement nest egg, I'm not ruling out cranking out news stories when I'm 82. I won't be nearly as pleasant as Verma is. But then, I'm not nearly as pleasant now. K.W.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I take a few days off hunting and I miss the big day for Verma.   35 years&#8230;wow.  She truly is the best employee the department has ever seen.  I guarentee she is the most underpaid and deserves 10 times her salary.  She runs the show and does a great job.<br />
She also makes a great carrot cake! </p>
<p>I bet you will not be at the journal for 35 years, KW.</p>
<p><em>Jeff: I hope you&#8217;re right. But given the state of my retirement nest egg, I&#8217;m not ruling out cranking out news stories when I&#8217;m 82. I won&#8217;t be nearly as pleasant as Verma is. But then, I&#8217;m not nearly as pleasant now. K.W.</em></p>
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		<title>Comment on Antlers, antlers, who&#8217;s got the antlers? Skjonsberg! by NE Waterfowler</title>
		<link>http://blogs.rapidcityjournal.com/outdoors/?p=2152&#038;cpage=1#comment-12269</link>
		<dc:creator>NE Waterfowler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I knew Rob when he was scrub meat hunter!  Learned to hunt cause they had to eat.
Really honed your skills, boy.  Nice job!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I knew Rob when he was scrub meat hunter!  Learned to hunt cause they had to eat.<br />
Really honed your skills, boy.  Nice job!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is a tree stand in an apple tree illegal baiting? by interested party</title>
		<link>http://blogs.rapidcityjournal.com/outdoors/?p=2144&#038;cpage=1#comment-12268</link>
		<dc:creator>interested party</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Woster, permit me to let your blog readers in on it: we are the deer under the apple tree, the fish in the barrel, the consumers for Journal advertisers.  

It is ethical to build a deer blind in an apple tree only when you need the meat to feed your family; but, it is not ethical to kill as many as you can just to amuse yourself.

&lt;em&gt;interested: I remain confused. K.W.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Woster, permit me to let your blog readers in on it: we are the deer under the apple tree, the fish in the barrel, the consumers for Journal advertisers.  </p>
<p>It is ethical to build a deer blind in an apple tree only when you need the meat to feed your family; but, it is not ethical to kill as many as you can just to amuse yourself.</p>
<p><em>interested: I remain confused. K.W.</em></p>
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		<title>Comment on Is a tree stand in an apple tree illegal baiting? by skeptic</title>
		<link>http://blogs.rapidcityjournal.com/outdoors/?p=2144&#038;cpage=1#comment-12267</link>
		<dc:creator>skeptic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As intriqued as I am by a moderator armed with discretionary editing and publishing rights, who engages bloggers? Yours is a greater contradiction than mine my friend. 
Virtually all land owners in S.D. are receiving some type of government assistance, taxpayers money. Yet they are free to close their land and reap additional monetary benefits by selling hunting rights for state owned game animals to the highest biddder. There should be a requirement for all landowners receiving any type of federal subsidy that compels them to allow a reasonable number of non-paying responsible middle class hunters access to their land. The old if you don't raise the drinking age to 21 you don't get any federal highway funds logic. We'll see how fast many of them open their arms to average hunters who can't afford to pay 200 dollars a day to hunt pheasants, or 3K for a shot at a trophy mule deer. 
They usually try to repeal the right of way small game hunitng law at least every other year or so. Many landowners have become greedy selfish boors, and they're ruining hunting for the common man.

&lt;em&gt;skeptic: I know a lot of common men who would tell you that hunting is anything but ruined. We have more walk-in public hunting through private landowners agreements, than any other state. There's lots of state and federal land to hunt. Road hunting remains legal for small game in most situations. And there are still landowners around the state, outside the hot, economically lucrative zones, who will give permission without pay to hunters who ask politely and in advance. I know a lot of farmers and ranchers, by the way. In my experience, they are "greedy, selfish boors" in roughly the same percentage as the rest of society. And if you consider yourself "the common man,"  I know two landowners on this blog - rdennis and Nick Nemec - alone who will gladly trade you some farm-ranch labor for the privilege of hunting on their property. In fact, if you're after does, you could probably hunt on rd's place without throwing a single bale. Just ask. K.W.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As intriqued as I am by a moderator armed with discretionary editing and publishing rights, who engages bloggers? Yours is a greater contradiction than mine my friend.<br />
Virtually all land owners in S.D. are receiving some type of government assistance, taxpayers money. Yet they are free to close their land and reap additional monetary benefits by selling hunting rights for state owned game animals to the highest biddder. There should be a requirement for all landowners receiving any type of federal subsidy that compels them to allow a reasonable number of non-paying responsible middle class hunters access to their land. The old if you don&#8217;t raise the drinking age to 21 you don&#8217;t get any federal highway funds logic. We&#8217;ll see how fast many of them open their arms to average hunters who can&#8217;t afford to pay 200 dollars a day to hunt pheasants, or 3K for a shot at a trophy mule deer.<br />
They usually try to repeal the right of way small game hunitng law at least every other year or so. Many landowners have become greedy selfish boors, and they&#8217;re ruining hunting for the common man.</p>
<p><em>skeptic: I know a lot of common men who would tell you that hunting is anything but ruined. We have more walk-in public hunting through private landowners agreements, than any other state. There&#8217;s lots of state and federal land to hunt. Road hunting remains legal for small game in most situations. And there are still landowners around the state, outside the hot, economically lucrative zones, who will give permission without pay to hunters who ask politely and in advance. I know a lot of farmers and ranchers, by the way. In my experience, they are &#8220;greedy, selfish boors&#8221; in roughly the same percentage as the rest of society. And if you consider yourself &#8220;the common man,&#8221;  I know two landowners on this blog - rdennis and Nick Nemec - alone who will gladly trade you some farm-ranch labor for the privilege of hunting on their property. In fact, if you&#8217;re after does, you could probably hunt on rd&#8217;s place without throwing a single bale. Just ask. K.W.</em></p>
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		<title>Comment on Antlers, antlers, who&#8217;s got the antlers? Skjonsberg! by Joe Taylor</title>
		<link>http://blogs.rapidcityjournal.com/outdoors/?p=2152&#038;cpage=1#comment-12263</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's easy to hit a great big huge target like that.... personally I prefer the challenge of hitting a small scrawny deer.

Seriously, Congratulations, that is an incredible deer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s easy to hit a great big huge target like that&#8230;. personally I prefer the challenge of hitting a small scrawny deer.</p>
<p>Seriously, Congratulations, that is an incredible deer.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is a tree stand in an apple tree illegal baiting? by rdennis</title>
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		<dc:creator>rdennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That's okay Nemo, we can disagree on this subject and not get in a fist fight. :)

Skeptic, please show incidents where Bill is full of hot air. I ain't caught him in a lie yet, but it sure would be fun to tease him about it if I could!   :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s okay Nemo, we can disagree on this subject and not get in a fist fight. <img src='http://blogs.rapidcityjournal.com/outdoors/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Skeptic, please show incidents where Bill is full of hot air. I ain&#8217;t caught him in a lie yet, but it sure would be fun to tease him about it if I could!   <img src='http://blogs.rapidcityjournal.com/outdoors/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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